Curse

Ouchie · Jan 11, 2008, 05:09 PM // 17:09

Ok today's big news about the 117 being banned brings up some memories for me about other exploits we heard about over the years.

So I thought I'd see which ones we all remember and what action (if any) was taken in each case.

I vaguely remember a guild loosing its place in GvG because of an exploit.

There was the whole Sunspear/Lightbring points and afk farming and not killing monks so they rez mobs

The Shrines for afk farming had their NPC taken away so no blessings and the mobs were changed to only count as points for the first time you kill them, but no action was taken against users of the exploit.

Any others?

makosi · Jan 11, 2008, 05:12 PM // 17:12

There was an exploit which gave reputation points for primary EotN quests that allowed people to get rank10 Delver in half an hour.

lyra_song · Jan 11, 2008, 05:16 PM // 17:16

Duncan...nuff said.

SirJackassIII · Jan 11, 2008, 05:19 PM // 17:19

Duping
The series of ferries by using GH travel

Ouchie · Jan 11, 2008, 05:22 PM // 17:22

I was curious about the duping - what happened - I think i read somewhere the items were deleted?

Chicken Ftw · Jan 11, 2008, 05:24 PM // 17:24

Lulz. They weren't, which is why you can still see 2000+ armbrace bids. A few people got banned, but obviously not everyone involved.

Coridan · Jan 11, 2008, 05:27 PM // 17:27

well there was the hack/exploit what ever that a person could gain GM level status in the Game...and disconnect others etc..

Trub · Jan 11, 2008, 05:30 PM // 17:30

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chicken Ftw

Lulz. They weren't, which is why you can still see 2000+ armbrace bids. A few people got banned, but obviously not everyone involved.

Looks like a nice chunk of them did this time..(Same 'guild', same 'players'.

/wave bye bye to those stacks of ill gotten gains cheaters!!

Shanaeri Rynale · Jan 11, 2008, 05:51 PM // 17:51

I think the first exploit I heard of was the one where you get get multiple 50K XP for killing the doppleganger

It was'nt really an exploit, but the bug I saw that was the most fun was the one in which henchies dropped gold when they died, and every monster was hostile to another. So all you needed to do was drag two mobs together, watch them fight and pick up the spoils.

MirkoTeran · Jan 11, 2008, 05:56 PM // 17:56

Just a few that actually 'surfaced':
-map traveling anywhere on map
-storage in pre-searing
-disconnecting everyone in instance
-...

metallidevils · Jan 11, 2008, 06:06 PM // 18:06

What exactly is Anet's definition for an exploit? For example, if I'm exploring and I just happen to run into a pile of say, 100 ectos, and they obviously shouldn't be there, I can't really get in trouble for picking them up, since that's an error on Anet's part and I didn't actually do anything wrong. However, if I actually find a true hack, then that's obviously a bannable offense.

I don't know how those 117 people were able to find that secret room - did they physically hack something, or did they just run through an invisible wall or whatever?

I didn't really agree with the banning of a bunch of people who supposedly 'knowingly' bought duplicated items for cheap. I don't really see what they did wrong..they wanted an item, had no proof that it was duplicated, and bought it, with their earned money. One of the reasons that Microsoft doesn't automatically sue or kick off anyone with bootleg software, is because it's not always the consumer's fault.

Trub · Jan 11, 2008, 06:17 PM // 18:17

metallidevils wrote:
What exactly is Anet's definition for an exploit? For example, if I'm exploring and I just happen to run into a pile of say, 100 ectos, and they obviously shouldn't be there, I can't really get in trouble for picking them up, since that's an error on Anet's part and I didn't actually do anything wrong. However, if I actually find a true hack, then that's obviously a bannable offense. /end

Um...wouldn't you know that if you've never seen that many drop in the game, In one spot...and the area you were in...DO NOT to touch it, and report it IMMEDIATLEY to ANet?(sp)
Surely you know prices..(even from the merch) of such a 'rare' crafting materials...(look on trading forums for high end sales) that ectoes are used as currency.
Not a valid argument .."I didn't know better" lordy lordy.

Lagg · Jan 11, 2008, 06:19 PM // 18:19

Trader reset when the territories' economies were synced.

A few people got stupidly rich. Anet never addressed it.

metallidevils · Jan 11, 2008, 06:20 PM // 18:20

Quote:

Originally Posted by Trub

Um...wouldn't you know that if you've never seen that many drop in the game, In one spot...and the area you were in...DO NOT to touch it, and report it IMMEDIATLEY to ANet?(sp)
Surely you know prices..(even from the merch) of such a 'rare' crafting materials...(look on trading forums for high end sales) that ectoes are used as currency.
Not a valid argument .."I didn't know better" lordy lordy.

But that doesn't make sense. How often do you hear of mislabeled clothing items, electronic items, etc, where the company honors the price that is on the item, because it's their mistake? And even if they don't honor the price, the person is never going to get in trouble for trying. It wouldn't be like I found the command to automatically spawn 100 ecto in front of me. But if it drops, why shouldn't I take it? Worst case is, Anet takes it away, or does a rollback or whatever. But I wouldn't have done anything illegal or bannable.

Ouchie · Jan 11, 2008, 06:20 PM // 18:20

Quote:

Originally Posted by metallidevils

What exactly is Anet's definition for an exploit? For example, if I'm exploring and I just happen to run into a pile of say, 100 ectos, and they obviously shouldn't be there, I can't really get in trouble for picking them up, since that's an error on Anet's part and I didn't actually do anything wrong. However, if I actually find a true hack, then that's obviously a bannable offense.

I don't know how those 117 people were able to find that secret room - did they physically hack something, or did they just run through an invisible wall or whatever?

I didn't really agree with the banning of a bunch of people who supposedly 'knowingly' bought duplicated items for cheap. I don't really see what they did wrong..they wanted an item, had no proof that it was duplicated, and bought it, with their earned money. One of the reasons that Microsoft doesn't automatically sue or kick off anyone with bootleg software, is because it's not always the consumer's fault.

I would think just going through and finding 100 ectos isn't an exploit but if you were to have to have a monk use charm animal on a certain tree then cast mending on it for the 100 ectos to appear - that is an exploit because there are a set number of perameters that you must go through that a person wouldn't do in normal game play

quickmonty · Jan 11, 2008, 06:20 PM // 18:20

There are two free chests (not really chests) in Nightfall that say "Do not touch!"

If I touch them will I get banned?

j/k

jammerpa · Jan 11, 2008, 06:22 PM // 18:22

How about the afk lightbringer points farming exploit that allowed you to get LB points for killing rezzed monsters. Was so jealous when I saw r8 LB's in DoA a few days after it opened. By the time I found out about the exploit, it had been fixed.

Would I have taken advantage of it ... probably since they weren't hell bent on banning like they are now.

Chicken Ftw · Jan 11, 2008, 06:22 PM // 18:22

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lagg

Trader reset when the territories' economies were synced.

A few people got stupidly rich. Anet never addressed it.

Oh man, I remember this. I returned to GW the day after it happened, only to find a few people I knew had gotten insanely rich the day before.

Trub · Jan 11, 2008, 06:24 PM // 18:24

DO NOT to touch it, and report it IMMEDIATLEY to ANet?(sp)

Ouchie · Jan 11, 2008, 06:28 PM // 18:28

Quote:

Originally Posted by Trub

Um...wouldn't you know that if you've never seen that many drop in the game, In one spot...and the area you were in...DO NOT to touch it, and report it IMMEDIATLEY to ANet?(sp)
Surely you know prices..(even from the merch) of such a 'rare' crafting materials...(look on trading forums for high end sales) that ectoes are used as currency.
Not a valid argument .."I didn't know better" lordy lordy.

If this is true and what we should do - then anyone who found a cupcake yesterday is in big trouble